it's going to be barack obama. >> bill: yes, it will. that's what i said and you are right. if you agree with me you are right. this is what we should always -- >> i know how to works. [ laughter ] >> bill: he would have to be because the president overcame vast odds and shut have lost the election. let's be honest with the economic profile that we have and he won. did he something extraordinary and that i think has to be criteria. you can't discount psy. [ laughter ] there is a guy who has more than 800 million hits. >> tight race. >> bill: look at him. is that not the person of the year right there? i think the umbrella should get some mention, too. this is so insane. aren't we living in insane world? we don't have any leaders anymore there are no leaders anymore. they are all either idealogues or fighting. where are the problem solvers? where is lincoln? where is he? >> you know, i think a lot of the problem solvers just like you said in the beginning, they don't want to get into this debate because getting into politics means everything about your family gets directed up